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Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« on: April 05, 2014, 10:25:47 PM »
First of all, many thanks to Pelle for this new release.

Trying to install Version 8.00 RC1 32-bit on my Windows XP installation, I received the error message below :

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Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8 required; the setup will now exit.

I was able to install RC1 on a Windows 7 PE environment and they copy the Pelles C folder to my XP system. Except poinst.exe, the IDE and tools are running on Windows XP.
Code it... That's all...

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 02:04:59 PM »
XP is no longer listed as supported platform on the download page of v8.

This seems to be feasible as XP is dropped this month by Microsoft.
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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 03:32:27 PM »
The question is legal.
The setup shows XP as allowed OS

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 04:17:18 PM »
Except poinst.exe, the IDE and tools are running on Windows XP.

Which means everything will be fine soon, just wait that Pelle finds the one line in poinst.c that depends on a Vista+ function.

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 05:15:00 PM »
When we speek " For Windows 32 ", we mean for Win2K and then.
Also I like more WinXP 32 bits  than WinVista 32.
If MS stopped supporting WinXP, it is up to them.
But we want a good C compiler for win 32 and 64, not to buy a new OS.
I always program for Win2K and then.
If I can not use PelleC, I 'll turn into MS compilers.

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 05:25:10 PM »
If I can not use PelleC, I 'll turn into MS compilers.

We'll miss you.

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 05:44:58 PM »
We'll miss you.

Actually, will you personally miss me ?

Manos.

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 05:46:54 PM »
Extended support for XP ends in two days (April 8th) -- after that no more security updates and patches. It sounds like a bad idea to continue using XP...
...but I don't think there are any huge technical reasons for removing it. OpenMP will probably not work well, but everything else should.

So, with this in mind, should I re-enable support for XP ?!
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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 06:47:32 PM »
Hi Pelle,

Including me, a lot of coders are using the good old Windows XP. We would be grateful for your decision to support XP.
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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 08:09:41 PM »
Extended support for XP ends in two days (April 8th) -- after that no more security updates and patches. It sounds like a bad idea to continue using XP...
...but I don't think there are any huge technical reasons for removing it. OpenMP will probably not work well, but everything else should.

So, with this in mind, should I re-enable support for XP ?!

But your compiler is not an XP support, is a great tool that covers many many platforms  ;)

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 08:49:30 PM »
Extended support for XP ends in two days (April 8th) -- after that no more security updates and patches. It sounds like a bad idea to continue using XP...
...but I don't think there are any huge technical reasons for removing it. OpenMP will probably not work well, but everything else should.

So, with this in mind, should I re-enable support for XP ?!

In the sense that technology has moved on .. No.
 
But then still having 14,000,000 users world wide is very impressive.
 
 

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 09:10:06 PM »
I always program for Win2K and then.
If I can not use PelleC, I 'll turn into MS compilers.

The MS compilers don't support Win2k for some time now.
The last one was the compiler included with WinSDK 6.0, the Win7 SDK is not supporting Win2k either.
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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 09:42:53 PM »
I always program for Win2K and then.
If I can not use PelleC, I 'll turn into MS compilers.

The MS compilers don't support Win2k for some time now.
The last one was the compiler included with WinSDK 6.0, the Win7 SDK is not supporting Win2k either.

Not entirely correct... The function calls from the Windows 2000 API are all still there... in fact a lot of the API hails from Windows 3.1. As long as a compiler can build 32 bit code, static links to the CRT and doesn't use any API calls that don't exist in Windows 2000 dlls it is still entirely possible to write programs that will run just fine on it.
 
Now, getting W2k drivers for new hardware... that's a challenge.
 
 

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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 09:59:44 PM »
The MS compilers don't support Win2k for some time now.
The last one was the compiler included with WinSDK 6.0, the Win7 SDK is not supporting Win2k either.

I have in my PC WinXP sp2 and also a laptop with Win7 64 bits.
I have downloaded Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Driver Development Kit (DDK)
and the folder WINDDK includes the following subfolders:
Bin\x86, inc\atl21, inc\atl30, inc\crt, inc\ddk, \inc\mfc42, inc\w2k, \inc\wnet, inc\wxp,
lib\atl, lib\crt, lib\mfc, lib\w2k, lib\wnet, lib\wxp.

I have builded many projects in my PC, (WinXP), with VC++ 2005 express,
using inc\w2k and lib\w2k dynamically linking with MSVCRT.dll.
All projects run OK in my laptop, (Win7 64 bits).

Manos.


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Re: Version 8.00 RC1 installation issue on Windows XP
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 04:11:01 AM »
XP is no longer listed as supported platform on the download page of v8.

This seems to be feasible as XP is dropped this month by Microsoft.
Sorry, but that is simply not correct. M$ stops providing patches to the "general public" come April 8th. That's all. Nothing stops working with existing Windows XP setups and big corporations, who can afford it, are still provided with updates. For years to come...

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