Hopefully the domain get's renewed soon but could a moderator post V13 to the downloads section?
I was about to install on a new PC but I guess not right now :'(
Hello,
I can confirm the issue. http://smorgasbordet.com/pellesc/ is not available at the moment.
Quote from: Cbeginner on November 23, 2025, 05:49:24 PMHopefully the domain get's renewed soon but could a moderator post V13 to the downloads section?
I was about to install on a new PC but I guess not right now :'(
Unfortunately, Moderators do not have enough site permissions to upload a file of that size:
Your file is too large. The maximum attachment size allowed is 1,024 KB.
Should be able to get it from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250801041730/smorgasbordet.com/pellesc/
Click on Download as usual.
John Z
Quote from: John Z on November 23, 2025, 10:21:13 PMShould be able to get it from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250801041730/smorgasbordet.com/pellesc/
Click on Download as usual.
John Z
Yes thank you!
Installed and working now :D
Is it just Pelle's website that is down or is Pelle himself unavailable again?
You might have to start thinking about the future if Pelles C is no longer being developed. Which C tool after Pelles C is almost as good to use?
Hi alderman2,
Pelle is continuing the development of the Pelles C toolset. We must keep in mind that maintaining Pelles C is not an easy job and Pelle needs time.
Quote from: Vortex on December 30, 2025, 09:57:28 PMHi alderman2,
Pelle is continuing the development of the Pelles C toolset. We must keep in mind that maintaining Pelles C is not an easy job and Pelle needs time.
I agree with you, but there's still a problem.
If there's no official website for the tool, people will assume it's abandonware anyway. Furthermore, no new users will join the community. Who would surf the web to find a copy of the tool without developing negative feelings about it? What antivirus or software site would review it? And who would even download a virtually unknown tool onto their system?
In my opinion, this forum could be the "official" site, also hosting the tool's download.
That way, it would regain its reputation.
Agree with you!
I really hope that Pelle can continue to develop his tool or hand it over to someone else, why not to this group?
Hello,
Did you visit the Downloads section of the forum?
https://forum.pellesc.de/index.php?board=26.0
Quote from: Vortex on January 01, 2026, 11:00:32 AMHello,
Did you visit the Downloads section of the forum?
https://forum.pellesc.de/index.php?board=26.0
Yes, but don't you think that a link to wayback machine for the last release is alarming? :(
Would be so unacceptable to host PellesC Releases on this board?
I guess Christian, our forum administrator can attach Pelles C v13 to the Downloads section.
Quote from: Vortex on January 01, 2026, 08:52:24 PMI guess Christian, our forum administrator can attach Pelles C v13 to the Downloads section.
It would be excellent if Mr Pelle himself manage a section of this forum with the releases.
That would finally clarify that PEllesC is live and developing. 8)
Where is Pelle ? Is he alive? :'(
Hi, latest version is available here as well :
https://github.com/wenuam/wm_app_dev_lng_c__PellesC/tree/13.00_250521
Hi Kochise,
You may wish to check :
https://www.pellesc.se/
Interesting...
Hmmmm - someone in France cloned / forked smorgasbordet.com into Github.
This could save Pelle from adding all the examples to the new PellesC.se site, but control over the integrity of those files could be questioned imo.
Downloaded cc.exe just to check the version it shows 13.0.1.0 but I'm not trying it..
No sources for PellesC of course,the actual programs, just copied from the installed directory I suppose. No notes or comments or attributions either.
Personally I'd go to wayback machine before this GitHub without more details from the poster.
John Z
Hello, the PellesC.se says 13.01 but with no release note and difference from 13.00
For the github clone / fork, you can check against what is available on wayback machine I guess.
As for the notes, comments and attributions, maybe go to the main branch :
https://github.com/wenuam/wm_app_dev_lng_c__PellesC
OK - Thanks,
That information at least makes it a bit more legitimate.
There was a minor bug release, I believe, when Pelle started the new PelleC.se web site.
MrBcx commented on it first -
John Z
No problem, could you check the github clone/fork content vs wayback machine and tell us about your findings ?
Download the github branch as zip and unzip it, install the legacy 13.00 version and go into the installation folder.
You can then use Total Commander to "synchronize" the two folders and their sub folders to check on the bit level if there is any difference.
Why is the old smorgasbordet.com site abandoned ?
Hi Kochise,
There is no need to use the wayback machine right now because the PellesC.se web site is distributing the official current version of Pelles C. So this is what one would/should use to compare files with the GitHub hosted Pelles C files.
I'm not really interested in doing the comparison however, and I do not use the Total Commander program. Of course there are other methods to compare and validate, but it is of little interest.
I do not know why Pelle decided to not renew the old site. Maybe he got a better deal ..
John Z
Since you questioned the "integrity of those file" it was only fair to check them by yourself, just to be sure.
It is nice to know that the "official current version of Pelles C" is back online.
Keep in mind the "GitHub hosted Pelles C files" can be executed online, without even having to install or clone them locally.
It's easy to calculate the hash of the latest installer, setup.exe v13.01 with Powershell :
D:\>Powershell -Command "(Get-FileHash "setup.exe" -Algorithm MD5).Hash"
4ABBD312312B7D2F1EDF5C0A9A2D1DC4
D:\>Powershell -Command "(Get-FileHash "setup.exe" -Algorithm SHA1).Hash"
65B178ECF29C3C59121818E794969F1E4A0987E4
D:\>Powershell -Command "(Get-FileHash "setup.exe" -Algorithm SHA512).Hash"
14E6339D5F55063E91A331201C9E20B77402941C8E157639CB9FE77FD16BD9309ABB8058CDDCC83DDA3852A51828F3E674AB47EB79B9C13A6E89F7CE7C2F5315
D:\>Powershell -Command "(Get-FileHash "setup.exe" -Algorithm SHA256).Hash"
84E586D1FCA7B9FEC55BD294A103AF16A045D1DF1BCB77A3F4FDF13D8F239141
Yeah, it's not about the installer but the installed files.
With WinMerge, those bin files are identical with Pelles C 13.00.
Thank you for the clarification.
Quote from: Kochise on January 27, 2026, 01:38:09 PMYeah, it's not about the installer but the installed files.
There is a reason why MD5 values ared supplied with large iso files. A MD5 hash tied with the host iso file is easier to manage. No need to calculate the hashes of the individuals inside the iso.
Sure, but the Github repository doesn't provide the installer but the installed files. So the installer's MD5 won't help there.
Interesting tool
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html (https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html)
Indeed.
Total Commander does it too : select files/folders, menu Files, select Create checksum file(s). The generated file can then be checked against another set of files.
I'm not the author of this Swiss army knife, its author is Swiss though, that may explain.
A simple tool for MD5
project files:
https://forum.pellesc.de/index.php?msg=41905 (https://forum.pellesc.de/index.php?msg=41905)