Help file suggestion

[Pelle]

Hello Quin,

I also found two more typos:

OK. Thanks.

So Pelle, you actually did make a lot of improvements. Just the ASCII and ANSI tables, as well as any table with the same static text as its entire column row, are the only ones currently in need of fixing

The ASCII and ANSI tables are just listing all the numeric values with it's corresponding character. Not terribly interesting. Trying to make these tables more friendly to screen readers will likely make them unreadable to everyone.

Do you actually have an example of a "table with the same static text as its entire column row" ?

[Quin]

Hi Pelle,
Yes, the ascii table is the example
The column text for every single column in that table is "ASCII Character Table", same as the heading right above it.
These aren't needed column headers, so you can safely remove them. I'm not sure if it'll break screen readers being able to navigate the table, though.

[John Z]

if it helps here are the two I modified.

John Z

[Quin]

Yup, and John Z's versions read how I expect them to

[Pelle]

if it helps here are the two I modified.

Sorry, this looks worse to me (not being blind).
Except for any typos, I'm very much done with this topic for now...

[John Z]

Except for any typos, I'm very much done with this topic for now...

Understood -

Well that is my fault.  I was just testing how to make the change not thinking about a final look.
I'm sure your help file is still more usable for the screen reader now than before.

John Z

[Quin]

Except for any typos, I'm very much done with this topic for now...

Understood -

Well that is my fault.  I was just testing how to make the change not thinking about a final look.
I'm sure your help file is still more usable for the screen reader now than before.

John Z

Oh it definitely is, and that is certainly much appreciated.
I wonder if we could achieve the wanted look with CSS? I know nothing about how it looks though so...

[John Z]

Hi Quin,

Yes Pelle already uses CSS for his help file.  I did not include it when creating the test file for the headers.

John Z

[Quin]

Hi Quin,

Yes Pelle already uses CSS for his help file.  I did not include it when creating the test file for the headers.

John Z

Hi,
No, what I meant was I wonder if we can add the columns like you had, and then use CSS to style them.

[Robert]

Hi Quin:

The Pelles Help file already uses CSS to style the tables, including the headers.

Missing components, regarding navigation with a screen reader, are the

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<thead> ... </thead>demarcation tags enclosing the headers and the

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<tbody> ... </tbody>demarcation tags on the rest of the table.

I suspect that a regex search and replace utility like DnGrep
https://dngrep.github.io/
could add the missing components.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/thead
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/tbody