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iZzz32

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Start page doesn't show up
« on: April 16, 2012, 05:47:30 PM »
Pelles C IDE shows navigation error when Show start page option is selected in Tools->Options->General->On startup. However if change that option to to Show home page it successfully displays help file on startup.

Btw, the browser itself cannot open websites in some cases: for example, when the above option is set to Show home page, I start IDE, type an URL (http://ya.ru/ for example) into the location bar and press Enter. Site is showed up for a second, then IDE removes the category list from the left and immediately I see the same navigation error page (EDIT: it is somehow related to navigation in the displayed help file - if I don’t click on the category list there are chances that site would be loaded correctly). I have no problems when using IE itself or a PSDK help viewer.

Pelles C IDE v7.00 RC1 on Windows XP SP3 with IE 6.0.

Thanks for the new version, C11 and especially for the natural alignment warning: I've found a bug in my code :-)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 07:37:28 PM by iZzz32 »
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CommonTater

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 06:00:06 PM »
You should try updating IE before filing a bug report...  IE6 is very old.

It opened your url just fine with IE8 on Win7 x64...

You can download IE8 for 32 bit XP... HERE
 
 
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 06:02:21 PM by CommonTater »
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iZzz32

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 07:35:38 PM »
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You should try updating IE before filing a bug report...  IE6 is very old.
Yes it is old, but it is default IE version on XP. I'm not using IE at all and never bothered with updating it (I even don't know which version is the latest), and I didn't have problems with the other software on my PC which is using IE (like Skype).
And yes, after updating to IE 8 I was able to see a start page, thank you. (The second problem disappeared too: with IE 8 there is no category list on the left :) ). Now I don't think that Pelle should fix IE 6 interaction but it would be nice to mention IE 8 requirement somewhere.
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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 03:43:37 AM »
I take your point that the requirement should be stated...

But I would also suggest that very few people are (successfully) using IE6 anymore so your case is something of an exception... 
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czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 08:48:10 AM »
Hi,

here is an other exception. I have IE6 installed too. But it is not my standard browser.
And I will not install IE7-? because i will not use it.

czerny
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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 05:55:59 PM »
Quote from: czerny on April 17, 2012, 08:48:10 AM
Hi,

here is an other exception. I have IE6 installed too. But it is not my standard browser.
And I will not install IE7-? because i will not use it.

czerny
You should simply update it, even if you don't use it (I don't use it actively either). But I would not take a chance that there is a software out there that makes use of web API calls, calling up IE and using any of the exploits that are even far more common and abused than that of later IE versions...

Ralf
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czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 06:32:46 PM »
IE7 does not run under win2k.

czerny
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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 07:30:33 PM »
Quote from: czerny on April 17, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
IE7 does not run under win2k.

czerny
Well, when running such an old dog, you can't really complain when more current software doesn't work with all features anymore...  :-\

Ralf
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czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 10:36:54 PM »
My old dog does not piddle on the floor.

But I do not want to discuss this theme again.

czerny
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CommonTater

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 10:44:23 PM »
Quote from: czerny on April 17, 2012, 10:36:54 PM
My old dog does not piddle on the floor.

But I do not want to discuss this theme again.

czerny

OK... but at least you know what the problem is.
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czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 08:20:50 PM »
I have extracted the start page as an external html.

If the ide is running (rsrc0009.dll loaded) the banner is NOT found. This should work (see: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220830/en-us).

If I include the directory 'PellesC\Bin\Intl' to the path the banner is found.

I have then tryed to load the start page over an helper html file

Code: [Select]
<body leftmargin="20">
<a href="res://rsrc0009.dll/#23/8246">start</a>
</body>

but with no success.

Pelle: Is this the right url?

czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 01:59:45 PM »
Here is project for testing that problem.
It is based to BrowsApp from John's page.
There is menu options to load PellesC 7 start page from resources
- from rsrc0009.dll with 'res://rsrc0009.dll/#23/8246' if it is in same folder as program.
- from WebBrowserApp2.exe with 'res://WebBrowserApp2.exe/#23/8246'
- from WebBrowserApp2.exe with 'res://WebBrowserApp2.exe/StartPage'

Only last option works with Windows 2000 and IE5, so problem is in IE5.

BrowsApp is modified for UNICODE version too.
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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 05:14:46 PM »
All I can say is that Win2K is no longer officially supported in Version 7.0 (as indicated on the download page). I havn't added a check in the Setup to prevent installation on Win2K (yet), and things that worked in the past will probably still work, but I no longer test on Win2K, nor do I care much about bugs on Win2K. Sorry.

For me it's enough to try and support XP/Vista/7. Soon we have Windows 8 too...
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czerny

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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 06:14:57 PM »
Hi Pelle!

I do not expect, that you try or care much about win2k. But maybe there is a simple solution!

czerny
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Re: Start page doesn't show up
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 04:24:17 AM »
Quote from: czerny on April 22, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Hi Pelle!

But maybe there is a simple solution!

LOL... sure is...  Update your OS.

You can get XP for a couple of sheckles in second hand stores these days...


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