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POCRT.DLL not Found
« on: April 07, 2007, 03:50:43 PM »
I will start in this fourm since I am not sure if this a bug.  I am trying to set up a program test for MASM ASM to call C.  I am using a Batch File with the following:
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C:\MASM32\bin\ml.exe /c /coff /Cp /Ic:\masm32\include AsmCallC.asm

REM Pelle's C
echo Compile C Code
"C:\Program Files\PellesC\Bin\pocc.exe" /Ox /Ot /I "C:\Program Files\PellesC\include" AsmTest.c
.......
echo Link C Code
"C:\Program Files\PellesC\Bin\polink.exe" @PellesC.rsp AsmCallC.obj AsmTest.obj

The PellesC.rsp file is:
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/RELEASE
/SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE
/VERBOSE
"/LIBPATH:C:\Program Files\PellesC\Lib"
"/LIBPATH:C:\Program Files\PellesC\Lib\Win"
pocrt.lib

Everything compiles and links fine with no problem when I run the batch file but I when I start the AsmCallc.exe program I get a message "This application has failed to start because pocrt.dll was not found.  Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
As near as I can tell from my research my compile is using single threaded lib calls so I am unclear why the pocrt.dll is needed.  If I copy the pocrt.dll into the working directory then the app runs normally.  If I run the link with /VERBOSE  I get the following:

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Searching C:\Program Files\PellesC\Lib\pocrt.lib
    Found _fprintf
        pocrt.lib(pocrt.dll)

It looks like the linker is pulling in the pocrt.dll when I want it to pull in the .lib file.   Any thoughts on what I am missing?  Also, why do I link my ASM code with POLINK and not link.exe?


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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2007, 09:37:09 AM »
You could use static crt.lib instead.
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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 04:27:46 PM »
You have pocrt.lib in 'PellesC.rsp', which will (indirectly) reference pocrt.dll. pocrt.dll is Pelles C multi-threaded C runtime library in a separate DLL. You can also link with crt.lib, which is Pelles C single threaded C runtime static library, or crtmt.lib, which is Pelles C multi-threaded C runtime static library.

The static libraries will put all C runtime code in the executables, so no extra DLL is needed. The DLL version is useful to make the executables smaller, but this means that pocrt.dll must be available when the program is run. If you copy the program to a different computer, pocrt.dll must be copied too... (which can be a pain sometimes...)
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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 11:53:59 PM »
Pelle,

Thank you for your help.  I hate to ask for more help when you have just helped me out already but I am really confused.  I changed the .rsp file to specify crt.lib and I am able to compile and link things with no problem but when I run the .exe it just hangs.  No output is written to the console.  I have looked @ this in OllyDBg and it seems to get stuck in a loop when calling the ReadConsoleInputA API function.  I don't think this is an issue with the code (C or ASM) because I was able to get it work when I copied and linked with the pocrt.dll.

I know there is something missing here but I am stumped about what to try next.  If you have  any thoughts please advise me.
I have attached the code (C and ASM), the make file and the .exe in the zip file. 

Hope someone can help...


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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 01:01:59 AM »
CCoder,

Since the entry point (main) is in the asm file, the C Run-time is not getting initialized properly. This is only a problem when the CRT is linked statically. See "Program startup: the true story" in the Pelles C Help file.
 

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 01:46:32 AM »

That helps a little but I am still unclear what to do next.  So mainCRTstartup is called before my main (ASM) proc and it initializes the C Runtime library.  So what do I need to do to have mainCRTStartup called before my main PROC in ASM?   

I tried using /ENTRY:crtMainStartup but I get an unresolved symbol for _main.   

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 02:30:39 AM »
CCoder,

There is a way, but it's undocumented.

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; AsmCallC.asm
.486
.MODEL FLAT,STDCALL
OPTION CASEMAP:NONE

INCLUDE windows.inc
INCLUDE kernel32.inc

INCLUDELIB kernel32.lib

asmPrintFunc   PROTO C :PTR BYTE
WaitKey        PROTO C

; undocumented
;--------------------------------------------
__bheapinit    PROTO C    ; will return a non-zero value on success, otherwise zero -- for malloc() etc.
__ioinit       PROTO C    ; will not return anything -- for I/O handles etc.
;--------------------------------------------

.DATA

    msgPrint BYTE "Test Call from AsmCallC to asmPrintFunc",13,10,0

.CODE

start:

    ; undocumented way to initialize a statically linked C Run-Time Library
    ;--------------------------------------------
    INVOKE __bheapinit 
    test eax, eax
    jz @F
    INVOKE __ioinit 
    ;--------------------------------------------
   
    INVOKE asmPrintFunc, ADDR msgPrint
    INVOKE WaitKey
   @@:
    INVOKE ExitProcess, 0

END start

I ran into the same problem a while back. http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=2670.0
 
« Last Edit: April 13, 2007, 02:45:26 AM by Greg »

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 02:21:01 PM »
Yes, this looks OK as minimal init of the single threaded library (crt.lib). For the multi-threaded version of the static library (crtmt.lib), there is an additional call (after __bheapinit, before __ioinit):

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__mtinit PROTO C ; will return a non-zero value on success, otherwise zero

INVOKE __mtinit
test eax,eax
jz oops

I will think about it, but perhaps I will include the sources of the startup code in the future...
/Pelle

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2007, 02:42:58 AM »
Pelle,

Thanks for the additional tidbit about initializing crtmt.lib. I had almost forgotten about how the static CRT initialization works, but CCoder jogged my memory, and I had saved the example code. Maybe just expand on the "Program startup: the true story" help subject.
 
« Last Edit: April 14, 2007, 02:49:49 AM by Greg »

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2007, 03:49:19 AM »
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

The example you gave works just fine in the sample I coded.  I appreciate the help,  it's given a little better understanding of how things work "under the hood".  ;D  Though I will probably stick to using pocrt.dll simply because it's a little safer.

Just to make sure I am understand things properly I need the code sample when:
1. I have an ASM program calling a C program.
2. The ASM program is the entry point of the application (I.E.  there is no C main() which calls ASM )
3. The CRT.LIB or CRTMT.LIB is statically linked into the application.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: April 14, 2007, 03:54:01 AM by CCoder »

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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2007, 03:30:26 PM »
Greg,

No problem.

Yes, updating the help file will work too. Some C compiler distributions comes with source code for the startup code, in case someone wants to modify it. Very few people probably does. I will choose the simplest method...
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Re: POCRT.DLL not Found
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2007, 03:35:44 PM »
CCoder,

Yes, pocrt.dll will do it's own initialization, so it's easier to use from assembly code.

Your understanding seems correct...
/Pelle