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Offline alderman2

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DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« on: December 21, 2024, 10:22:30 AM »
If (I say if) we were to get the complete code for Pelles-C:

- Could some get together in a group and continue developing Pelles-C?
- Does that knowledge exist on the forum?

I think that, for example, 5 talented programmers form a closed group that develops Pelles-C further.
A document is drawn up that must be followed so that Pelles-C always has Pelles spirit involved in the development.
If someone disappears from the group, a new one is brought in so that the development does not die by itself, as it often does if only one or a few "own" the development.
On the forum, a thread/section can be created so that the development of thoughts in the group takes place transparently (but only "the five" have access to the code).

Now all that is needed is to get the code out, can be a difficult nut to crack :( maybe impossible so this post is completely unnecessary.

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2024, 08:47:00 PM »
Hi alderman2,

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If (I say if) we were to get the complete code for Pelles-C:

I understand but Pelle never released the source code so it's difficult to make comments.
Code it... That's all...

Offline alderman2

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2024, 07:58:03 AM »
Yes, it's tragic.

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2024, 01:11:58 PM »
One person's private projects havenaturally limited lifetime.
We have enjoyed over 20 years of Pelles C this far.
As long it works in many Windows versions, it still be useful for many years.
May the source be with you

HellOfMice

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2024, 05:17:04 PM »
Alderman2 you are right one day we will have to think about but I think we have 2 or three windows versions to wait.
Maybe Pelle will be back.
We can find a lot of free compilers but understanding them, writing compiler, optimizer, linker, librarian and debugger is a hard work.
It is not a question of talent, just knowledge in a first time. I accept a slow compiler that generates a very good code.
Except his editor, I like very much what Pelle did and I hope he will come...
In French we say "We're not going to poke him in the back"

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2024, 06:41:09 PM »
Nice answers!

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2024, 09:32:00 PM »
I hope Pelle is ok, I mean for someone to have passion to create Pelles C and maintain it for all this time, just cannot see anyone just walking away without notice.

Hope you are ok Pelle
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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2024, 12:21:29 AM »
We all hope, and yes pray, he is OK.

When a passion becomes, or feels like, an obligation then it can become a burden, and both of those will dampen the passion.  At that point it becomes easier to 'walk away' although still with some regret I'm, sure.  But the only one who knows what or why is Pelle.

In time, if he can , he may appear again, no one knows.

As many have said Version 12 still has legs and will be viable for quite a while.  The forum will help that by continuing to helping others.

John Z

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2024, 06:47:11 PM »
All I can say is I'm thankful that there are many here willing to help others, lord knows I need the help  :D
Learning C little by little

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2024, 07:26:27 PM »
Agree with you!
Grateful is an understatement!

HellOfMice

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2024, 07:38:40 PM »
Hi The world


I found two kinds of people here:
1 - The ghost, who and never say anything. If they have time to read they have time to write. I Hate them.
2- People like Timo, John, Vortex, Frankie, MrBcx, Marco and others that don't hesitate to help everyone needing them.


They don't only help you with sentence, they search links, write programs (small or bigger) or test programs.
They give a real help. Sometimes they write programs to explain something...


These men are great, I find them very sympa (Sorry Timo it is a French word).


Your goal when you come in a forum must not only be to ask a question but to answer to people needing you.
Share with us you will be welcome. Nobody will they you that your code is bad, bad written...
If you want there are specialists in Asm and C and... Just ask and one day it will you that gives help


Philippe RIO / Grincheux / HellOfMice


JOYEUX NOEL / MERRY CHRISTMAS


HYVÄÄ JOULUA, HYVÄÄ JOULUA

Offline Cbeginner

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2024, 08:34:05 PM »
I'm more then happy to help when someone asks.
BUT I'm afraid most here are advanced users and not asking for "How to create an int variable in console program"  :D
Learning C little by little

HellOfMice

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2024, 08:38:51 PM »
How do we begin?
I was not born with a knowledge in C or in ASM, me too I needed help.
I was happy to find forums like this one.
Tell what you think, we will correct you and you will progress

Offline larryli

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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2024, 05:09:01 AM »
How do we begin?
I was not born with a knowledge in C or in ASM, me too I needed help.
I was happy to find forums like this one.
Tell what you think, we will correct you and you will progress

https://drh.github.io/lcc/

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Re: DEVELOP PELLES-C FURTHER
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2024, 02:25:19 PM »
I started with the Comodore VIC20. It came with a table tennis program. It had a graphical error that I tried to fix in the accompanying code. A few nights later, I was stuck in the wonderful world of programming!